I was never approached about being a ministerial servant...I always thought that strange because... I was by far and away the best teacher and speaker in the congregation."
Maybe they wanted you to work on humility ;) ..lol
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Have You Ever Rejected Being Appointed an Elder/MS Before the Announcement?
by GermanXJW inwhen i was a jw several brothers (ms) told me in private that the elders had asked them several times if they did not want to become an elder.
they said they rejected because it was too much responsibility for them.
were you ever approached that the boe wanted to make you an elder but you refused?
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A question for Athiests.
by new hope and happiness ini am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.
some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.
i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.
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Outlaw said: "Some people Who Claim to be Atheists...They`re Angry at God, for Not Being what They Expected.."
Either that's an oxymoron... or you mean that some atheists are angry with the things that some believers preach about, promoting a false belief in a loving and personal kind of God that doesn't exist and yet still needs your time, money, and full devotion? -
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A question for Athiests.
by new hope and happiness ini am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.
some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.
i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.
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Atheism isn't a religion.
"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
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Letter of Reinstatement
by kayanow ini'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.
i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.
i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.
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Welcome, kayanow!
I respect your decision.
After all, what's wrong with being a Jehovahs Witness?
"Jehovah's Witnesses are generally sincere, clean living people that wish to serve God.""One of the enjoyable aspects of being a Jehovah's Witness is the friends that can be made through the congregation and the broad variety of people that can be met through District Conventions."http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/wrong-with-being-jehovahs-witness.php -
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Ruby said: "the earth itself gave plenty of early warnings."
That is a misleading statement. It is of no use for the earth to give such signs, if a civilisation cannot do the following;
detect as many of the signs as necessary, interpret them correctly, and then sound the warning in enough time.
"When the tsunami struck on December 26, 2004, the Indian Ocean had no early warning system to speak of—at least nothing like the Pacific Ocean's array of tide gauges, seismometers, deep ocean sensors, high-tech buoys, and communication systems.
The Pacific system's seismometers happened to detect the Indian Ocean earthquake that created the tsunami.
"We had seismic signals," Charles McCreery said. "But we had no sea-level data to detect or measure the tsunami and no system for disseminating a warning." McCreery is the director of the U.S. government's Pacific Tsunami Warning Center (PTWC) in Ewa Beach, Hawaii."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/1223_051223_tsunami_warning.html
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(sorry if this seems off-topic, Cofty)
Ruby- What would you say regarding the early civilisations that did not even have enough knowledge to interpret any of the signs that we know of today? Why did God not warn them of what was to occur?
(The following is about Pompeii)
"His uncle, known as Pliny the Elder...was not only the senior military officer in the district, but possibly the most well informed living Roman on matters of natural science. His 37-volume Natural History is the longest work on science in Latin that has survived from antiquity... And the sighting of a column of smoke 'like an umbrella pine' on the far side of the Bay triggered a response more of curiosity than of alarm in him...
Pliny's casual reference to earth tremors 'which were not particularly alarming because they are frequent in Campania' reveals the Roman's comprehensive ignorance of the link between seismic activity (earth tremors) and volcanic activity...
The volcanologists of today constantly monitor any changes in levels of seismic activity...
The catastrophic magnitude of the eruption of AD 79 was connected with the extended period of inactivity that preceded it. A long interval combined with mounting seismic activity is a sure sign of impending disaster.
Of course, the Romans could not know this."
"...the earthquakes that Pliny described so casually were more than just portents. Current thinking, however, had not yet caught up with their significance. We know this because, by an extraordinary coincidence, the philosopher Seneca, advisor to the emperor Nero, wrote a discussion of the scientific causes of earthquakes only a few years before the eruption.
Seneca's treatise on the causes of natural phenomena included an entire book on earthquakes, and at the time he was writing, the news was coming in freshly of the catastrophic earthquakes in Campania of AD 63, which caused extensive damage to both Pompeii and Herculaneum.
Seneca writes that he regarded it as likely that earthquakes in different parts of the world were interconnected, and even that they were linked to stormy weather, but he draws no link with volcanic activity. Indeed, he goes so far as to reproach the landowners who were deserting Campania for fear of further earthquakes."
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Ruby said: "here is an interesting quote from Freud regarding religion"..."A personal god was nothing more than an exalted father-figure: desire for such a deity sprang from infantile yearnings for a powerful, protective father, for justice and fairness and for life to go on forever. God is simply a projection of these desires.."
So you don't believe in a personal God, then? Either that or you don't agree with the quote, that you just threw in with no explanation of the relevance of it to this thread?
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Please help....in a dilemma..
by crazyhorse inplease help with this: when i was in college, there was a lot of talk about university and how all who pursue that are wasting their time and all that.
even before going to uni, there was a lot of pressurr on me concerning my decision.
during that time, two elders sat with me for appointment as ms and asked me if i have freedom of speech in the org since i'm going to uni and i said no.
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For now, then, maybe reading these may help a little..
(Should work in the reverse)
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/207626/1/Best-way-to-step-down-from-being-a-servant#.VALX0V2t-o8
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(You can always refuse.)
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/147839/1/Have-You-Ever-Rejected-Being-Appointed-an-Elder-MS-Before-the-Announcement#.VALWF12t-o8
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(This is just a great thread)
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/225279/2/I-worked-hard-as-a-Ministerial-Servant-and-all-I-got-was-this-lousy-drinking-problem#.VALQOl2t-o8 -
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Give me a reason not to go back
by chukky 594 inbeen out now for 10 yrs but life is a mess.
starting to think its because i have no spiritual compass.
why shouldn't i consider going back?.
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chukky 594, it would be really nice to hear from you, just to let us know how you are going on and if you have read any of this..
Of course, your final decision is none of our business, but any feedback would be great. If we didn't care, we wouldn't post :) -
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Theology searching for an answer to this problem solves nothing, and really means nothing, if the God of Christian theism does not exist. Searching for a loving God that exists but allows things like the Tsunami disaster to happen reminds me of this quote:
"I recall the story of the philosopher and the theologian. The two were engaged in disputation and the theologian used the old quip about a philosopher resembling a blind man, in a dark room, looking for a black cat — which wasn’t there. “That may be,” said the philosopher: “but a theologian would have found it.”
– Julian Huxley
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Ruby said: "Indeed social science tells us that some connections produce bad things in some parts of the world whereas those same connections produce good things in another part of the world and this is what makes life unfair and fragile."
Why does a God of love and justice allow life to be unfair?